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A progressive, occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases — and an irreverent tour of all the ways the law is shaped by politics.

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Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha

May 26, 2026 · 44:38

In 1983, the Supreme Court declared the legislative veto unconstitutional, forever kneecapping Congress’ ability to check the executive branch. Now you have to learn about bicameralism and presentment. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Alli Rodgers. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social. Our Sponsors: * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.quince.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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